Watchers and 82

Fri, Jan 3, 12:41 AM

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James,

I was reading your site and came across the Enemy of Mankind post. I very much look forward to reading this when you complete it.

Consider Psalm 82 and the work done by Michael Heiser.

82 God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.

2 How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.

3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

4 Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

5 They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.

8 Arise, O God, judge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations.

Heiser argues that psalm 82 illustrates that the big God Yahweh has a "divine counsel" that consists of his children. These gods rule over principalities on earth and in psalm 82 Yahweh is calling them out for not doing their job properly. He states that man is walking blindly along, implying that the job of the gods is to guide humans in the areas they rule over. 82 goes on to say that even though they are his children they will die like men. So we have the rulers of earth doing an unjust job and seemingly being reprimanded and possibly punished by eventual death. This might cause some anger between child and Father. Cause a rebellion maybe? From what I have read it seems like Eden is under the rule of Yahweh but the rest of the earth is not unless Yahweh decides to step in. He gives his children free will as humans have free will to do as they will. So what does a world look like if the rulers have decided to rebel against their ruler and Father?

I remember Heiser state concerning the book of Job that satan is not the name of an entity but the title of an entity who's job is in his name—- "accuser" or "adversary." Thus it is his job deemed by God to be the adversary and test Job. In Job satan states he has been cruising around earth. If his job title is adversary it follows that he was probably going around doing his job. Also note that God asks him where he has been indicating that God doesn't keep track of him though of course he could. So like the divine counsel that has been doing crummy things to humans could satan also go off the chain sometimes if he stays within his work duties as prescribed by the heavenly HR department? So he is just out testing humans. Seems pretty accurate.

In thinking about Christ, here we have The Son of God taking human form. We see God taking a human form in Genesis too when he is walking around looking for Adam and Eve. God gives free will to humans and also the gods that rule the areas of earth. God doesn't mess up their game. Play on playa'. So he slips his Son in via a virgin birth in a barn. Nondescript except for the star alignments that pull the Wise Men in. In John 8 Christ goes after the devils who are in the form of man. He states that they are from below whilst he is from above. That he is not of this world but they are of this world. Well this is pretty interesting. Not of this world? Adam was not of this world, he was of Eden and then cast into this world that seemingly must have been going on before Adam because Adam's son Cain built cities implying that there were already people in this world to make a city for. I have read some people make a distinction between the day 6 people of Genesis and Adam as in, there are two creation stories. I don't know as I am just a generalist of things and just relating some probably incorrect ideas from my feeble mind. Further in John 8 Christ states that the Pharisees questioning him are of their father the devil. So we can see the distinctions here Christ is not of the devil nor of this world. The Pharisees are of the devil and of this world. Eden stands in contrast to earth that Adam was cast into after transgressing. Anyway, John 8 is pretty astounding as Christ tricks the "jews" into admitting that they are not Judahites but that's another story.

So Christ is crucified for hate speech and thought crimes. The devils cheer and think they have won but lo and behold Christ comes back from the dead and what does he do? He goes to the Abyss and tells the fallen angels present there a little what for. Christ was crucified on Golgatha which means skull. There are some that say that this was the burial place of (at least the head) of goliath after David conked him and cut his head off. If so this is important because goliath would have been of the nephilim seed line and nephilim are strictly of this world, so much so that the fallen angels ask Enoch to plead their cases to let their children enter heaven when they die. God nopes on that and thus it is said that their spirits are stuck on this earth after they die. So Christ dies on the head of a nephilim and later goes down and talks to their parents.

So what I can't figure is where evil entered the world or whether it was here from the jump. We have Eve getting beguiled by the serpent. The serpent seed line theory people think that beguile means cinemax after dark if ya know what I mean. Thus their first child Cain was evil. I will come back to Cain on different subject in a bit. In Genesis we also have Jacob and Esau being born with second born Jacob grasping the heel of the elder Esau that seems a reference to God stating to Eve that there will be enmity between your seed (good) and the seed of the snake (evil). So God favors Jacob the second born which harkens to Adam the second born to the sons of God who rule the earth and possibly might be the serpent in the garden. (this gives motive for messing with Adam by the serpent (the elder to Adam)....if Yahweh gives Eden to his second born to look after and the first born gets jealous...well the elder might try to throw a stick in the bicycle wheels or an apple into a smoking hottie so to speak.) What this also speaks to is that evil isn't just some ether of bad but it is physical and it is some people. So if it is physical and in this realm it seems like it has to follow certain physical rules. Yahweh states that there are two seed lines that are against each other. One Adamic and one Serpent. So this must be passed via genetics. Maybe in the beginning it was very apparent who was evil and who wasn't. Later with all the genetic mixing maybe most people have a little bad seed and more good seed, while some the opposite and some have all evil. This could be an argument as to why bloodlines are so important to many seemingly evil people. Maybe doing evil and heinous acts is a way to signal that that person is in the serpent seed group in an attempt to gain access to the power and riches held by that group and to breed with them. If you have a tinfoil hat on then it sure seems interesting that companies like 23 and me took lots of dna data...and maybe that wasn't just for bioweapon development but to search out a certain seed line. This of course is lunatic crazy talk and probably incorrect but.... Also check out the parable of the wheat and the tares. They look the same and cannot be separated until the end of days for the wheat...pretty interesting concept presented there concerning evil..."They Live"

To get back to the Cain bit...You might find of interest the work of Tracy Twyman RIP. She and her x husband who supposedly committed suicide as Tracy supposedly did, got a ouji board and started talking to entities. The second or third one that came up was Cain. The interaction is quite interesting and gave info that they later found to be true. If I remember, this info validated the Genesis 6 nephilim fallen angel history....which is another entry point of evil into this world. Cain states something about the end of the world when things devolve into chaos and during that chaos he seemed to think that he could (as Nimrod attempted) storm heaven and take over pushing Yahweh from his throne. Tracy says that she was able to contact such entities and that anyone could do so also. If these things can be contacted and they have more knowledge than humans it seems that persons seeking the power of this world would definitely contact such beings....and at a price. This is probably something more akin to the power broker's religious beliefs than the term "satanism" that is usually used. Watcher worship? Fallen angel worship? (Blavatsky anyone?)

This is going to digress here from evil to watcher worship for a minute. Look at what was erected afterward there. First there is the one world trade building with the spire harkening to the tower of Babel and raiding heaven. Second there is the reflecting pool that has two negative space black cubes (saturn?) where water flows down into them. These are like opened tombs from the abyss that allow the fallen angel watchers to come back into this world. Finally we have the Oculus building that we are told is a hand releasing a bird or something like that. In reality it looks like the vertebrae of a heinous creature rising from the abyss. In the bottom of the building is a subway station that is covered in eyes ...oculus...eyes....watchers... So we have evidence of ritual not to satan but to the watchers/fallen angels. Once you see the watcher reference or fallen angel reference you will see it all over popular culture.

Well, I have already wrote too much schizo stuff and lost track of time. I have more thoughts on the corporeal part of evil in this world but I gotta get some sleep in before grinding for the masters of this world tomorrow. I'm gonna send this without proofing it because I'm too tired. I apologize in advance because I'm sure my errors are legion (haha, Bible pun/joke).

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Hi James,

Good to speak with you again. Here is the Eustice Mullins book the Curse of Canaan.

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God

“You are King of Heaven,” says Hera to Zeus.

I listened to a church sermon today, whose giver was just smart enough to mislead himself and his flock. He admitted to tolerating reading other books than the Bible. But no other books have a purpose beyond entertainment or critique. He even mentioned burning books, three times. This imposed ignorance, that most Christians—that is a solid most—rarely read other books after college and other humans rarely read a book after college, has resulted in a vast gulf of discord between readers of the Bible and those tiny number who read other books, or which few read the Bible. This sounds like a publishing house war for a limited number of readers.

500 years ago leading Christian thinkers read everything from Antiquity they could. No more, now they just read the Bible, with nothing but trust in their cult leaders to put that book into the broader context. For God was clearly working visibly among damned and doomed people worlds away from the tiny band of Chosen People he offered help to.

I will take a look at Greek lyric poets in another study.

For now Banjo, thanks for the prompt on Psalm 82, and let me cite Homer for parallel references to what sounds like the very same Supreme Universal Number One Deity as He who transformed Moses…

Do recall that the language all of the gospels were written was Greek, with one also in another Arуan tongue, Aramaic, and that even much of the scriptures were written in Greek first, before Hebrew. Greek is the original Christian language. It is also the language of Homer.

In the Iliad God has the following names, in order of how often they are used. The name Zeus, is a short hand, as is God rather than The God of Abraham or the Lord of Hosts. From least to most used in Antiquity’s most read book:

-1. Time-holder, He who is of, yet outside of, Time

-2. Father of Gods and Men, as described in Genesis, Job and Psalms

-3. Cloudgatherer or stormbringer, as is God in Exodus

-4. Aegisbearer, cloud shield or eye of the storm, symbolized by a hide cloak

-5. Almighty

-6. Zeus [Thunderlord]

-7. God

-8. All knowing

-9. All seeing

-10. Lord of, or Preeminent in Heaven, Lord of the Gods, King of the Gods

Many lesser cult titles are attached to Zeus. He is the God that oaths are sworn before and his most highly regarded daughter is Justice. [2]

Hermes, Apollo and Athene are the deceiver/warning gods who take the form of people and, like the angels who came to see Lot, trick some folks and warn others according to God’s will. Hermes, the messenger, in Hesiod is called Dog-killer, for dogs find him out and he must silence them like a spy. Apollo is closest to Satan in the pantheon, being the most deceiving god and doing much harm to men out of jealousy. Athene, the most powerful next to Zeus, his blue-eyed daughter who rides the storm but also protects certain cities, works the closest with God, who trusts her to know and work His will without having to spell it out as with Iris “Stormfoot,” his messenger.

In the Odyssey, an elder at council states that he would not speak falsely before God. Throughout both poems it is the sentiment of God Almighty, Timeholder of the Thundercloud, that humans are the most suffering beings in Creation, that this is doubly sad in that after their brief life like a leaf on a tree, they are doomed to Hades forever. He has great admiration and wishes fame and good memories among the living, for those men who die protecting their people and are honestly in His service, who abide by His decrees, sent by His messengers from heaven.

Only the modern mind, who reads an apostle speaking of “All of Asia” having heard the Gospel in less then 30 years, and applies that from Istanbul to Tokyo, when it meant from Antioch to Alexandria along the Middle Sea in A.D. 51, [1] could be idiot enough to read the Iliad the Odyssey and the Bible and not find more concord than discord. Discord was the most terrible Greek god.

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Notes

-1. This was in a Baptist sermon today, that 12 unarmed men in sandals, without megaphones or cable networks or megachurches or church jets, covered tens of millions of square miles and spoke with hundreds of millions of people, in scores of languages, from A.D. 36 to 51. The pastor was making the point that nearly 2,000 years ago all of Asia deserved damnation for failing to heed the Gospels, just like a man whose summons is used as a napkin by a negligent officer of the court and left in a food court trash bin deserves to be shot in bed at dawn by a SWAT time for failure to appear.

-2. Hesiod, Works and Days